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A different perspective on treating one individual type 2 diabetic-- part 2
Section:  General Diabetes

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Part 2

 

No argument that blood sugar must be lowered or that damage is being done as long as it is raised.  Is increasing blood insulin the only—or even the best way to lower blood sugar?
Should this protocol be examined?  If it is known that weight loss most often virtually reverses diabetes, why not treat the obesity first in a motivated patient?

From the brief history above—this seems to be working for me, whereas standard ADA guideline driven treatment simply did not. The ACCORD study results are interesting in this respect.   The following words were excerpted from the conclusions of this research:

our study has identified a previously unrecognized harm of intensive glucose lowering in high-risk patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus and high glycated hemoglobin levels. This harm may be due either to the approach used for rapidly lowering glycated hemoglobin levels or to the levels that were achieved. Our findings highlight the importance of conducting trials with sufficient statistical power to assess commonly used approaches on clinically relevant outcomes

 

In the methods section of this study, it will be seen that almost all of the pharmaceuticals used to achieve the “aggressively lowered” HgA1c goals were insulin or beta cell stimulants.  Could this “previously unrecognized harm” be high insulin levels?

 

There are new drugs on the horizon that, like Metformin, do not work by raising blood insulin levels.  SGLT2 blockers lower blood sugar by preventing re-absorption of glucose by the kidneys effectively lowering blood sugar directly and significantly.  These drugs are in the final stages of testing with the FDA.  There were some breast and bladder cancers in one experimental group, although overall cancers were the same in the control group.  Other similar drugs have had trials with no significant cancer differences between groups.
Another very important class of drugs are glucagon receptor antagonists.  These attach to hepatocytes at glucagon receptor sites, thereby making these sites unavailable to glucagon, thus preventing release of glucose.  Testing so far has demonstrated encouraging results as to safety and efficacy.

These drugs bring down blood sugar in a very substantial way without raising insulin to such high levels that it may be doing severe vascular damage aside from preventing the patient from losing weight.  The obesity alone is well known to cause serious health problems both in diabetics and non-diabetics.

The fact that the metabolism of sugar is only a part of metabolism in its entirety is a fact rarely, if ever acknowledged, let alone addressed in treatment planning.  I have never discussed my diet in terms of my metabolic rate, or my ability to adapt to a lower caloric intake at a visit with my diabeticion.

According to the generally accepted Harris-Benedict Equation for calculation of BMR, my daily resting requirement is 2410 calories, as a moderately active individual, around 2900.  During more than a year before beginning “insulin therapy”, I had consistently lost weight on a diet of around 2000 calories per day and also in the 4 months since discontinuing “insulin therapy”.  I virtually lost no weight during almost 2 years on the ADA regimen.

I believe that it is reasonable to ask the question: “Should the ADA, clinicians and the FDA critically review the treatment of the approximately 60 plus percent of type 2 diabetics who are obese?”

 

Can other than “insulin therapy”, be considered for use in lowering blood sugar? 

 

Might SGLT2 inhibitors and glucagon receptor antagonists with or without much lower doses of insulin or insulin producing drugs achieve ideal blood sugar goals with sharply lowered morbidity and mortality?  A large number of studies, including the ACCORD study, suggest this should be so.

 

Sulfonylureas (approved by the FDA) kill beta cells.  When already stressed, overworking beta cells are further pushed by drugs to release more insulin, some of the insulin released is not fully mature.  This pre-insulin is not nearly as physiologically active as insulin released under less stressed conditions. 

Is some of the “insulin resistance” really about impotent insulin?

 

It would be instructive to see a study having a control group treated with current ADA guideline insulin therapy and an experimental group treated with an FDA 3rd phase approved SGLT2 blocker and an appropriate glucagon blocker.  Both groups would have Metformin available. Of course both groups would be controlled for similar diet and exercise habits as well as other important lifestyle factors.  Many completed studies would predict very different morbidity and mortality statistics between the groups.   Perhaps the FDA should consider fast-tracking a study having such a huge potential for reducing loss of life and limb.

 

Diabetes is an enormous burden on health care resources.  Some say it has the potential to bankrupt the health care system.  Same old, same old treatment isn’t cutting it.  The quicker we can start thinking out of the box, the quicker we can stop putting people in them.

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Re: A different perspective on treating one individual type 2 diabetic-- part 2

 

Hi Alan,
 
To substantiate what you are saying, you may find this of interest:
 
According to a new study was published on April 6, 2011 in the European Heart Journal, not all diabetes drugs are equally effective at preventing death and heart disease over a decade-long period.  

Here is a brief summary of the results:

 

Per the study researcher Dr. Tina Ken Schramm, a senior resident at the Heart Center at Rigs Hospitalet, Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark:

 

Diabetes patients who take some versions of insulin secretagogues are 20 to 33% more likely to die from any cause over a 10-year period than patients who take the diabetes drug metformin.

 

But the findings do NOT suggest that insulin secretagogues are harmful to people — only that some seem to be less effective than metformin.

 

Metformin is doctors' first choice for treating type 2 diabetes, per Dr. Schramm. But the drug is contraindicated in patients with renal failure, severe heart failure and when patients are intolerant to metformin  which explains why not all diabetes patients can take metformin.

 

Schramm and her colleagues examined the health status of 107,806 Danish people ages 20 and older who were being treated with insulin secretagogues or metformin between 1997 and 2006. More than half the people in the study were on insulin secretagogues.

 

Researchers found that people who took the insulin secretagogues glimepiride, glyburide, gliclazide and tolbutamide had a greater risk of having a heart attack or stroke or dying from any cause during the 10-year period, compared with those who took only metformin.


Also, for patients who have had a heart attack before, those who took certain insulin secretagogues were 33 to 50% more likely to die from any cause than those on metformin.

 

But the insulin secretagogues gliclazide and repaglinide were equally effective as metformin at preventing death from all causes.


However, gliclazide was associated with an increased risk of stroke, compared with metformin therapy, in diabetes patients who had had a heart attack.


Dr. Darren McGuire, an associate professor of cardiology at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center atDallas, who was not involved with the study commented that:


>  Most doctors already know to recommend metformin as a first-line treatment for diabetes, but this study provides one of the largest observations of the effectiveness of metformin compared with other commonly used diabetes drugs.


>  Insulin secretagogues are commonly used among diabetes patients because their glucose-lowering effects are potent, they're well-tolerated by most patients and they come in a generic form, making them cheaper than some other medications.  However, they also carry risks of low blood sugar and can cause weight gain.


> It's not completely clear why metformin seems to be better for the heart than insulin secretagogues, especially because metformin is one of the least potent diabetes drugs for treating high blood sugar.


>  But metformin's positive heart effects "may be due to avoidance of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) that can have adverse cardiovascular consequences”.


Bottom line: Metformin works better than some insulin secretagogues for preventing death, heart attack and stroke in diabetes patients.

 

Mary Ann Hodorowicz, RD, CDE, MBA, Certified Endocrinology Coder
PresentDiabetes Author of MNT and DSMT Reimbursement Audio Lectures

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Re: A different perspective on treating one individual type 2 diabetic-- part 2

This is very thought-provoking information. I feel we are on the cusp of a breakthrough that may equal Dr. Banting's discovery of insulin.

I have many patients who are on the sulfonylureas. I have known that secretagogues use up beta cells leading to beta-cell exhaustion but I had never heard of the higher death rates. If a person cannot tolerate metformin for whatever reason, is there a low-cost alternative that could be prescribed? It seems all the newer drugs are cost-prohibitive for many PWD.

Roxy

Re: A different perspective on treating one individual type 2 diabetic-- part 2

Drugs that move off patent protection become inexpensive.  That is the case with metformin and the sulfonylureas.  I always refused sulfonylureas, not only because of their reputation for heart attacks and excess mortality, but the evidence seems to suggest that they on average fail after 1-4 years.  Other medications, even metformin are much more durable.  And I don't know of any other oral medications that have moved to generic status in the US.

 

 

Re: A different perspective on treating one individual type 2 diabetic-- part 2

Yes, there is another protocol that has been in use by diabetics since the early 1980’s. There are three areas that are addressed immediately after the tests are done to determine the extent of complications already present that need to be addressed in addition to the diabetes. Area (1)”Preserve beta cells”,(2)”Treat the symptoms”,( 3)”Prevent or Reverse the complications”.  The treatment plan is tailored to the individual, but basically it includes diet, +/or  weight loss, +/or  exercise, +/or  oral sensitizing or insulin-mimetic agents, +/or  insulin and the goal is Normal Blood Sugars (70-100) over the course of the day and into the night.  There is no room for sulfas. The intent is to empower the patient through education, negotiating adjustments as needed, and giving them the skills needed to deal with future obstacles to maintaining normal numbers.

Because the diet only includes 6 carbs for breakfast, 12 for lunch, and 12 for dinner, and if you exercise strenuously or can handle it an additional 6-12, the beginning dose of insulin is quite small. The rule of thumb is: Small doses of medication results in small mistakes that are easily corrected. Since insulin is the most potent fat-building hormone, reducing the dosage can help with weight loss but even more important it is insulin that helps the cell receive important nutrients for survival. If you need insulin to cover the “Dawn Phenomenon” but the diet and exercise and medications normalize the rest of the day, that will go a long way towards saving those beta cells till the cure arrives at our feet. Many who begin on insulin titrate off it as weight and insulin resistance improves. Others will always need it due to autoimmune components of the disease. But the amounts are small doses compared to what is needed with 45-60% of calories as carbs, even if they ARE so full of fiber.

Small doses of carbohydrates results in fewer glucose spikes and takes advantage of the type 2’s slow-acting insulin’s (either endogenous or exogenous) ability to do its work. We don’t want more than the body needs because the fat cells with the help of insulin transform the rest into saturated fat we end up sitting on!